The relationship between YHVH and Yeshua is a hot topic among many. I’m content to express that I don’t fully understand how it works. I accept what the New Testament authors state as important for any believer – Yeshua is the Son of God – simply that. (1 John 4:15)
I do know that a triune God is not conducive to Jewish thought. So before professing what the 21st century Christian believes, one must first understand what the 1st century Jew believed.
In any case, there are obvious contradictions in the Bible if one believes that Yeshua is fully God. If this is true, then Yeshua should encompass all the traits that make up God. Certainly these verses should be thought through and resolved without mystical concepts and doublespeak.
|God cannot die||Yeshua died|
Before the mountains were brought forth, or ever thou hadst formed the earth and the world, even from everlasting to everlasting, thou art God.
|1 Thessalonians 4:14 |
For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.
For I am the Lord, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.
|John 19:33 |
But when they came to Jesus, and saw that he was dead already, they brake not his legs.
|God cannot be tempted||Yeshua was tempted|
|James 1:13 |
Let no man say when he is tempted, I am tempted of God: for God cannot be tempted with evil, neither tempteth he any man:
|Hebrews 4:15 |
For we have not an high priest which cannot be touched with the feeling of our infirmities; but was in all points tempted like as we are, yet without sin.
|God is not man||Yeshua was a man|
|Numbers 23:19 |
God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?
|1 Timothy 2:5 |
For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;
|Sin separates us from God||Yeshua became sin|
|Isaiah 59: 2|
But your iniquities have separated between you and your God, and your sins have hid his face from you, that he will not hear.
|2 Corinthians 5:21|
For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.
|God’s knowledge is perfect||Yeshua doesn’t know some things|
Dost thou know the balancings of the clouds, the wondrous works of him which is perfect in knowledge?
|Mark 13:32 |
But of that day and that hour knoweth no man, no, not the angels which are in heaven, neither the Son, but the Father.
|No one can teach God||Yeshua learned obedience|
|Job 21:22 |
Can anyone teach God knowledge, in that he judges those on high?
Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;
|God does what He pleases||Yeshua doesn’t do what He pleases|
Whatever the LORD pleases, He does, In heaven and in earth, in the seas and in all deeps.
|Matthew 26:39 |
And he went a little farther, and fell on his face, and prayed, saying, O my Father, if it be possible, let this cup pass from me: nevertheless not as I will, but as thou wilt.
|God has all authority||Yeshua’s authority seems limited|
I know that You can do all things, And that no purpose of Yours can be thwarted.
But to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give; but it shall be given to them for whom it is prepared.
As one can see, the contradictions are numerous. It’s important to note that this is an attempt to wrap my head around trinitarian beliefs and the questions I put forth are a result of my struggle with understanding the trinitarian position, and not necessarily an attack on the theology.
We know that trinitarians believe that Yeshua was both fully God and fully man. So according to the Scripture noted above, any trinitarian should be comfortable stating these points:
- Yeshua, being fully God, died – God died.
- Yeshua, being fully God, was tempted – God was tempted.
- Yeshua, being fully God, was a man – God is a man.
- Yeshua, being fully God, became sin – God became sin.
- Yeshua, being fully God, doesn’t know some things – God’s knowledge is not infinite.
- Yeshua, being fully God, had to learn obedience – God had to learn obedience.
- Yeshua, being fully God, doesn’t do what he pleases – God doesn’t do what he pleases.
- Yeshua, being fully God, has limited authority – God has limited authority.
As I continue to delve further into the trinity doctrine, I’ll link these posts together here at the bottom or by a common tag.